The One with Lor Sabourin

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Lor Sabourin started rock-climbing when they were just twelve years old. They had to overcome a fear of falling to really succeed in the sport - but now, they're known for conquering some of the most intimidating ascents out there. Lor happens to be transgender - and the story of their journey in the sport is the subject of a brand-new film named 'They/Them’ which was released on Thursday and is available to view online right now. So, it's the perfect time to have Lor onto the podcast - and they're an absolutely brilliant guest. We cover all sorts of things in this episode, from overcoming a fear of falling; feeling like you belong in a sport; coming to terms with your own identity; opening themselves up to be the subject of a film – it’s all in here. This truly is a fascinating conversation, and we’re so glad Lor was able to join us for it. WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR GUEST? Instagram: @lor_sabourin WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE SHOW? @jack_murley jack.murley@bbc.co.uk